Where Do the Politics of Reparations Go From Here?

Where Do the Politics of Reparations Go From Here?

For a century after the Civil War, black people
were subjected to a relentless campaign of terror. A campaign that extended well into the lifetime
of Majority Leader McConnell. This is Jacqueline Luqman, and this is The
Real News Network. This week, the first congressional hearing
on reparations was held on Capitol Hill in nearly 12 years. The obvious and typical conservative rebukes
of reparations have come from the obvious and typical players, like Laura Ingram and
Mitch McConnell. To which Ta-Nehisi Coates responded in the
opening clip we just heard, as well as the interesting testimony from conservative columnists
like Coleman Hughes and conservative former NFL player and author, Burgess Owens, who
also testified at the hearing. As the discussion on reparations continues,
we want to examine what needs to happen politically for the effort to move forward. To talk about that with me today are Anoa
Changa. Anoa is an attorney and a Director of Political
Advocacy for Progressive Army. She is also the host of the podcast, The Way
with Anoa. Hello, Anoa. Hey. Marc is a correspondent for The Real News
and is with the Center for Emerging Media. Welcome, Marc and Anoa. Thanks for joining me again. It’s good to be with you. Always. Thanks for having us. All right. So. At the end of the hearing, Representative
Sheila Jackson Lee announced that several of her colleagues have already committed to
pushing the bill that the hearing was about, H.R.40, to a floor vote which has never happened
before, as far as I can recall in the history of this legislative fight for reparations. Now, there are a couple of questions that
I think we have to ask in this discussion that I’m not sure are being answered very
well, and that’s what I want to talk about. First of all though, in regard to H.R.40 passing,
if H.R.40 is pushed to a floor vote, how likely do you think it is that it will actually pass
the House, Marc? I think it could pass the House. I mean, I think that there are enough people
in the Democratic side that see it’s—If they don’t see its importance to do, they
may see its importance politically in this coming election. So I think that, I think it has a good chance
of passing the House. I mean, remember— for all its detractors,
this is not a bill that says, we demand reparations now. This is a bill calling for a commission to
study and come up with proposals and wrestle with the notion of what reparations means,
so I just think that it has the possibly to pass the House, yes. Anoa, what are your thoughts? I agree with Marc. I mean, I think considering who we have in
the House right now, the conversations we had, I mean I’m sure there are going to
be some people who claim they come from regions and blah, blah, blah. But I do think when you’re talking about
in the proper framing that it’s happening, I mean, think about it. This has been a 30-year fight to get it to
this point. John Conyers, Former Representative John Conyers
first introduced this bill, I believe it was in 1989 and he had worked with it in COBRA
and others, going back to 1987, to actually even get it to the point where he was introducing
a bill into Congress. So this has been like, you know, most of my
lifetime that this has been, you know, meandering its way forward. So, I mean, even the conversation that it
would be brought up for a floor vote and getting that commitment is a win. It may not be the win, but it is a win on
a smaller scale. And so, I do think that there is an effort,
an organizing effort. I think when we have the strength of many
of the different organizations, and digital organizers and people really getting out there
and educating and letting people know what this is really about, I do think I agree with
Marc. There is the possibility and potential that
exists in terms of the House. So obviously, the next question is if by
some miracle, which both of you agree that maybe it’s not a miracle at all, that it
could pass the House. It’s very, very possible if it passes the
House, does it die in the Senate? [all laugh] Yeah. I don’t think it goes very far in the Senate,
at all. Maybe to the men’s washroom. [all laugh]
 Anoa, what do you think? I mean, we can’t even get Mitch McConnell
to bring up a bill about election integrity and security and ensuring voting rights. And that’s something that affects everyone
across the board. So, you know, we would have the House being
able to move the needle and just making the case, I believe, for why it is important to
have at least a few more Senators in some of those seats that are up for grabs to flip
the balance a little bit more. But definitely, if someone could shift the
balance away from Mitch McConnell, I mean, that’s really where we’re looking at. This notion that somehow the Republicans are
suddenly going to cooperate if Joe Biden becomes President—We’ve seen time and again that
they’re just real basic procedures with their majority that we need things passed
and addressed—Like he won’t even call things up for a floor vote. There was a bipartisan effort in the House
on, you know, since they love bipartisanship so much. There is a bipartisan effort in the House
where Lucy McBath and others had gotten gun control regulations pulled together, and he
won’t bring it up for a floor vote, and he won’t even let it be heard in the Senate. So, I mean, yeah. We gotta get rid of Mitch. So, Marc, you brought up the great point
of what this bill really is, what H.R.40 really is. It is not a bill to implement reparations. As a matter of fact, Representative Jackson
Lee noted at the end of testimony yesterday in her remarks that she would simply ask her
colleagues who are opposed to reparations, why they are opposed not necessarily to reparations,
but why they are opposed to a bill that is designed to study reparations. Marc, is that the better question that we
should ask. Let me backtrack. Are we framing this discussion about reparations
in the most effective way politically right now? Probably. It’s perception and reality here. I mean, the perception in a large population
in America is reparations means giving black folks who are sitting around doing nothing,
and it wasn’t my fault because I didn’t own slaves, and I wasn’t around when my
great-grandfather was around. What do I have to do with the Civil War before
that? I wasn’t here. So, I mean, but I think that the real opportunity
here if the House and Pelosi could do something different, they could say, okay. The Senate didn’t pass this, but what we’re
going to do is we’re going to set up a commission out of the House to study this, and we’re
going to have people talk about this in our congressional districts, and we’re going
to set up conversations to, kind of, figure out what this means and why people talk about
reparations. What do they mean? What’s the history? I mean, this is a golden opportunity to wrestle
with who we are as Americans through a conversation about reparations. That’s how I see it. I don’t know how—I mean, when people say,
do you believe in reparations? I go, yes. But I think we don’t even understand, even
those people who say yes to that question don’t know what it means. I mean, how does that present itself? What does that policy mean? And so, but it’s an incredibly important
discussion to have. If they’re worth their salt, they will have
a group commission. We’re going to study this and try to get
as many congressional representatives to say, we’re going to take this back to our districts,
in our schools, in our churches, in our synagogues, in our mosques, in our places to talk about
what this means and to have a guided discussion about what this means. That’s what we need to have. And that still could happen out of this, if
they have the wherewithal to do it. Anoa, what are your thoughts on that? Do you think that’s the approach the Democrats
should take, even if it dies in the Senate? I mean, definitely even if it dies, it’s
definitely a conversation that needs to continue and doesn’t need to be led by hashtag activists
on social media who have misguided understandings of, you know, a greater context of foreign
policy, domestic policy, white supremacy, etc. It needs to actually have real clear organizing,
education, and real strong policy conversations. I think Marc touches on something really important
there where he talks about, you know, people going back to districts to educate people. You know, some people don’t know about redlining. People think reparations is automatically,
simply slavery that ended in 1865. Even thinking about Juneteenth, which happened
earlier this week and thinking about people talking about Juneteenth, most people think
that slavery ended with the Emancipation Proclamation in 1863. Why would anyone think that slavery ended
with the Emancipation Proclamation in 1863, when the Emancipation Proclamation was a military
declaration over states that the Union did not have control over and only applied to
Deep South secessionist states? It did not apply to slave-holding border states. It did not apply to when Union soldiers took
over formerly-held secessionist states. There were still slaves in some of those instances. People don’t even know that the Union did
actually still use slave labor in slave states when they were doing different things. So there’s a lot of stuff that people don’t
know about history, but when we move forward, people don’t know—I’ve seen people talking
about how, you know, when there was some freeing, emancipating of slaves, the United States
government reimbursed, gave reparations to slave owners. And there are some very real instances when
we come forward and we come through the years of Jim Crow. When we talk about being up north, we did
not have Jim Crow technically, but we still had differentials in wages. I mean, people are really excited about FDR
when we look at the creation of the Social Security Administration— the creation of
Social Security that disproportionately left out, you know, tons of black workers across
the board. So there are a lot of different metrices that
we could look at. Even coming now forward with the War on Drugs,
and in disproportionate funding in terms of schools, which is directly tied to the massive
redlining, which a recent study just came out and talked about the billions of wealth
that has been stolen from black communities because of the way homes in black communities
were devalued. I remember when I first learned about redlining
and learned about the disincentivizing. People don’t understand the United States
government disincentivized integrated neighborhoods. If you were a white couple and you wanted
the new funding that was coming around for housing when the Federal Housing Authority
was created in the 30s, you would not get fed funding if you were living in an integrated
neighborhood— because some people did, particularly up north. But if you moved when they started creating
the suburbs, like when the creation of the highway, there was segregated housing when
people came back on the G.I. Bill from their service in World War II. You know, there’s accounts of soldiers,
black soldiers in World War II that had racist incidents. I mean, we need to be re-evaluating dishonorable
discharges like the one my grandfather received, which he’s passed away now, but anecdotally,
it had to do with a racist incident with white officers. There’s so much that’s so rich that’s
so documented, we need a study. We need a Truth and Reconciliation Commission
process honestly, and we need to learn the lessons of what happened in South Africa,
and what worked and what didn’t work in the aftermath. That’s really what we need to be looking
at and adopting here in the United States of America in talking about moving forward
and how to systemically invest. And know that—What is it? The 10/20/30 program, or whatever it is that
Clyburn and Bernie Sanders have signed on to? That’s not reparations. You know, programs that disproportionately
may in theory benefit black people or Latinos or other people of color, that’s not the
same thing as actually addressing the systemic issues and racism that has minimized opportunity,
and has widened the chasm in terms of wealth and accumulation. It doesn’t matter how much you talk about
we’re going to make it equal for everyone. Making it equal for everyone doesn’t address
the past harm. And I have to go back to your point about
the hashtag. I think you said the “hashtag activists,”
many of whom, most of whom, are black and they get the history wrong, so they leave
out the connection to our brothers and sisters in the diaspora and the importance of their
struggle with the struggle of the “American descendants of slaves.” That’s the ADOS hashtag. Anoa, and then I want to bring this to you,
Marc. It was important that Sir Beckles, Sir Hilary
Beckles, who was the Chairman of the CARICOM Reparations Commission was in attendance at
the hearings yesterday. He spoke on a panel at Metropolitan AME Church
in Washington DC after the hearings and he brought that historical connection between
Africans in the diaspora, and their struggle for reparations and justice, and as you said
Anoa, the desire for a Truth and Reconciliation Commission on an international scale. But he also made it clear that there is a
link between that struggle and the struggle of African Americans that this hashtag movement
seems to not believe exists or they dismiss it. So, Anoa and then Marc, how do we respond
in this resurgence or this refocusing on reparations, and a reshaping of this conversation about
reparations? How do we respond to the more problematic
aspects of the ADOS movement, but how do we also fold them into this discussion so that
we all move forward together? Yeah. I think that’s a really good framing and
question I think that it’s really important to have. Like when were just talking about having a
real clear conversation around the education, the policy, the real analysis that needs to
happen to understand this. Because it’s not just that Americans, and
black Americans included, are not well-informed about the history. I mean, when people make comments about well,
you know, such-and-such islands, it’s not the same when those people come here. I mean, my great-grandparents came here in
the late 1800s, early 1900s from Barbados and Cape Verde, and so they very much had
to deal with these children that they ended up raising across the 30s. My grandmother, as a first-generation immigrant
in Brooklyn, was still a black woman raising black children in the projects subsequently
in Brooklyn. My mother’s family is, you know, they are
from the south. They’re from South Carolina. They’re from Denmark, South Carolina that’s
right now dealing with that major water crisis. And so, yes. On that side, someone probably with the last
name Johnson or Butler owned our family down here on this end. But the struggles and experiences—I mean,
you even have my stepmother’s family who even though they lived in the islands, they
end up settling in the south. There’s a lot of misunderstanding of how
people migrated, how things happened, and really actually, when we’re talking about
the system and the institution of slavery, if that’s simply how things manifested right
here on this soil, when it was an international system, an international capitalistic endeavor
that crossed across so many different nations. So the fact that we’re all even sitting
here, those of us who are descendants of slaves in America, descendants of enslaved Africans
in America, we were brought here not by people here in America necessarily, we were brought
here by the Portuguese, by the British, by the Spanish, by countless—You know, I mean,
what has happened across the diaspora, and it ties into our domestic policy and in our
interventionalism when we think about Manifest Destiny in the way in which we ride up in
Puerto Rico and Guam and so many other countries, and the way that the United States is running
up in so many different countries— whether intentionally, like with actual people in
spaces or just simply funding incursions in other countries now. It is all interrelated and the sooner and
better we have a better understanding of how to address what’s at the root cause— white
supremacy and unfettered American capitalism— the better off we’ll be overall, but we
need to have real focused conversations and educating people across this whole conversation
about what it is, what it isn’t, and how it should apply. Because then you have on the counter, the
other side. You have black Republicans who are coming
out, well I don’t need reparations. Well, good for you don’t need—You shut
up. These communities, you will have similar-situated
communities that have similar incomes— white and black— but you’ll have a complete
different in terms of house values and funding for the public schools, and that is a very
real issue and it needs to be addressed. Marc, what are your thoughts on this argument
that there is and there should be a disconnection between the struggle for reparative justice
in Africans in the diaspora, and African Americans or the descendants of American slaves so to
speak? It’s something that I’ve thought about
and I wrestle with, and I think that there’s—Where do I started this? We don’t have that much time. [laughs]
 We never do. So, I mean, I think on the one level, it’s
important for activists to raise the connectivity of this issue. I think it is really critical, but sometimes
we have to get America to understand why we have to have this discussion, why this discussion
of reparations is important, why it’s a critical issue, why it’s an American—We
have to make it first, I think, an American issue and get people to see what it is about. I think that it is politically important to
make those connections. I think those are the things that are important
to keep pushing this conversation, and pushing our understanding of our history and society,
and pushing some of the contradictions that led us here. We can never stop doing that and we have to
do that. But the broader conversation, if we want to
get people engaged, has to be why people have talked about reparations for such a long time,
and why we’re afraid to talk about it, and what it means for all of us. As I said to you earlier, we had this conversation
about this piece I’m working on now about what it means to be an American and these
concepts of freedom, and liberty, and justice, and how— no, they weren’t just the written
words of white men of property. Yes, they were, but they came out of the struggles
of Indigenous people because they saw the freedom in Indigenous people and they saw—And
their struggle for freedom was embodied in the struggle of black people in this country
and across the diaspora to make it happen. So it inspired the world, but we think of
it as these white men who wrote this thing, and that’s what it means. We have to make people understand this is
an American struggle. This is about who we are as a people. This came out of our past and our present,
and we have to address it. And I think that’s the only way we get the
discussion in front of people for them to hear it. I think part of the discussion is a connectivity,
but I do believe I guess where I might disagree is, I think that if the connectivity is the
dominant part of the discussion, then it never becomes a popular discussion. I think you have to make people get it first
and bring them in. You know, it’s like an example, very quickly,
I mean we talked about this a lot. I mean, one of the ways that white people
overcome racism is not through lectures, but is through struggle. I remember in my early days as a tenant organizer,
we organized the first interracial Tenants Union in the city we are now in, Baltimore,
back in the early 70s. It was called The Tenants Union Group. The white working-class lived on one side
of Charles Street and the black working-class lived in a neighborhood called Sharp-Leadenhall
on the other side of Charles Street, which is one of the oldest free black neighborhoods
in the country. And uniting those white and black people who
had never talked to each other— let alone, cross the street— in the struggle against
their landlords, then began to make the white tenants understand what their black brothers
and sisters were going through, and that began to change the nature of their racial thinking. We actually turned two precincts from a win
for George Wallace into George McGovern. We couldn’t get them to Shirley Chisholm. I may have voted for Shirley Chisholm. We couldn’t get them there, but we did get
them away from George Wallace. And so—
 So, you’re saying it’s a two, maybe a multi-step process to get people understanding
a smaller, narrower concept so that they can grasp a larger concept, so that the wider
issue becomes more clear? Yes, maybe my problem is maybe the way I say
this because I am seeing it through the lens of a community organizer, of how you organize
a political movement to make change happen. And so, it’s a complex thing, you know,
and I think that one of the things that people like us do is to make that connectivity, to
make those connections, by capitalism, oppression, and the rest that has to happen. But you also have to bring people into the
fold so they can begin to wrestle with it. You know, so they’re not immediately going,
I’m not giving black folks money, you know? Hmm, hmm. Right, right. So let me—From one community organizer to
another, Anoa, I’m going to give you the last word on this. What are your thoughts on this conversation
of connectivity or dysconnectivity between American descendants of slaves in this conversation
on reparations, to African descendants of slaves throughout the diaspora, being a two
or a multi-step process? What are your thoughts on it? I think, Marc, bring up some really good
points for consideration about how we talk to people, particularly white people explaining
how this works and other people who are nonblack. I think we have multiple conversations that
need to take place and not every conversation—It’s like when we talk about “we meet people
where they are,” so there are levels to conversations within community spaces, within
other spaces, within policy and organizing. But I do agree that we do need to really talk
and really grapple with folks on what the issue is, what we’re really talking about,
and why a study is even necessary in the historical perspective understanding. And it could lead to helping people have other
insight into how they should be organizing because quite honestly, you know, people in
West Virginia for example. You know, I spent several years living in
West Virginia, in Appalachia. Appalachian organizers, and those who have
had family in the coal mines, or have had a community decimated by industry, should
be looking at some type of restitutional process for what is happening in those communities,
right? That’s right. Many communities have been decimated. That’s a different conversation, but I think
that when we’re talking about modeling, or we’re talking about the economic wave
of organizing that needs to happen to actually lift people up, there is a restorative process
that communities can start to understand and learn about through their own lens. To understand why the massive exploitation
of black people has happened over the course of several hundred years at this point, because
it hasn’t stopped. We continue to still have disproportionate,
serious disparities across many— that directly go back to policy initiatives and legislative
efforts that were taken up by the United States government. And so, that is something that needs to be
considered. And, you know, like everyone else says, I
mean, ya’ll pay for all them expensive ass wars. [laughs] We can start doing right by people
right here in the United States of America who pay taxes. As with just about everything we talk about
here on The Real News, we never have enough time to dig deep into these topics. And certainly, this is a topic that we will
not stop talking about, nor should we. Right. But unfortunately, we have to leave this
conversation here today. So I want to thank you, Marc, for joining
me in the studio. My pleasure. And thank you, Anoa, for joining me via
Skype from Atlanta, Georgia by the way. This is Jacqueline Luqman, and this is The
Real News Network.

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71 thoughts on “Where Do the Politics of Reparations Go From Here?”

  • How about they go in a genuine direction? How about we talk to experts on this issue vs. the same pundit circle jerk you all keep serving us.

  • Reparations? First remove the occupying force. Second Slavery has been since the begining! Did they not have slaves in the Bible? Did not all conquering forces enslave the population. Killing all the wise, old, disabled! Did they keep the young as sex slaves! Now I have been taught most of these Conquering Tribes were highly Melanated. So can I assure. We all have fallen short!!! Love your neighbor!!! (Now Read This) worth the read.

  • This is retarded. No one alive today were slaves. Reparations are just another gimme dat for people who refuse to work and just want a handout!

  • About 70% of the slave ships that brought African to America were owned by Jews.

    Jews even owned the insurance companies that insured the ships bringing the human cargo to western countries.

    When we start talking about the Jewish involvement not only in the transatlantic slave trade but also in the financing of slavery, then we will get somewhere as black Americans.

  • アメリカのキャンペーンテロリストを排除はいいが、シリアを攻撃してはダメ🙅‍♀️

  • Where do they come from here? Most likely nowhere, because it's clear as day politicians use them to pander to black voters next year. Harris or Booker will never do anything. Hell, they don't even support healthcare as human right, so don't expect anyone to be serious about reparations, which honestly is completely irrelevant compared to medicare for all, public colleges, end of wars, infrastructure rebuild etc.

  • Come back to Africa!

    You are needed in this continent. We apologise for our ancestors that benefitted from abducting your ancestors and participated in the slave trade. We as Africans, as brothers and sisters, need your skills and knowledge and attitude to develop Africa. Come back and let us discuss reparations.

  • The united states owes reparations to black foundational Americans, descendants of enslavement, first and foremost.

    Those involved in the “international system” owe those from the diaspora reparations. This means France Owes Haiti. England Owes Jamaica. The Dutch and British owe South Africa. Etc, etc. Why do black American immigrants purposely muddy the argument by building strawmen?

    Black Americans do not go to foreign countries and try to fight against black foreigners seeking redress for injustice.

    Black immigrants on the left and the right are being dishonest and or outright traitors when they attempt to muddy the reparations argument.

  • Talking about reparations is useful in illustrating how at it's core, the US really hasn't changed much over the centuries.

  • The issue cannot be fixed. The issue will resolve itself through political power. Voting in America is changing. Africans in America have had their wake-up call. Latinos in America are just getting their wake-up call. If these 2 large groups in America truly wake up, the political landscape will be changed forever.

  • Yall know about Sandy Darity, Yvette Carnell & Antonio Moore. Yall know what they've don for this to even be an issue. Then gaslight them talking they dont understand the "diaspora's struggle" & ADOS get the history wrong when this has NOTHING to do with other BLACK'S from the diaspora. So I know exactly where you stand, you're light opposition masquerading as objectivity

  • The ship's were owned by jewish business men .

    Farrakhan tells the truth about the slave trade but jewish supremacists are trying to censor the Farrakhan for telling the truth.

    Check out Farrakhans videos about the slave trade

  • Illiteracy dosen't mean u can't read & write; it means u have no reasoning & that's what's holding up progress; white-supremacy.

  • Reparations? What should I ‘repair”? I worked hard, paid my taxes. Why should I be financially responsible for what happened 150 years ago? This won’t improve black lives, it’ll segregate them further.

  • The primary issue is not money. It's "FREEDOM". Why not devote your show to that. Wake up. As long as you focus on "reparations", you are still slaves.

  • More gaslighting of ADOS by people who clearly haven't listened to Tone, Yvette, or Dr. Darrity. They've pointed out the CARICOM repatriations movement and how they fight for reparations for Caribbean people. ADOS people are not and should not be included in that claim just like Carribean people should not be included in the ADOS reparations claim. Why are you intentionally misunderstanding this?

  • Yes black people have been discriminated against in this country that is an absolute fact but why are we talkin about giving them reparations when the first people that we did this to where the American Indians!
    And you're not even talking about them! They were the first people that deserve reparations from the government! What is it just because there's more black people that you're going to forget about the American Indians??? This is disgusting people.

  • I was enjoying the conversation, until “misguided hashtag internet people” were attacked- she just said we need to bring all groups together then mins laters attack – let’s be honest the ADOS people, maybe the real news should have those people on, because that is were the energy is, and I think it would be good for people to hear them.

  • This is stupid! You're going to pay for past shit that went on decades ago!
    Why don't you just fix what's happening now? Instead of tangling it up with all of this crap?

  • If we can afford to give israel $4 billion each year +++, surely we can do something with respect to reparations

  • The amount of blacks from the diaspora in Amerikkka is negligible compared to the blacks who decended from Amerikkkan slavery

    Why does it's keep coming up?

  • This silly bill is only to STUDY Reparations, when it was already studied, and attempted to deliver, in the 19th century!! This government will NOT give #ADOS a damn thing. All while handing out BILLIONS to other damaged groups, plenty who weren't damaged by the US (Israel). We will not stop pushing and demanding justice and repayment of a debt owed!!!

  • If you wonder where the government can find the money for reparations just RESEARCH foriegn assistance! If not…. then you choose not to be informed.

  • There are millions of people living in slavery NOW. So get ready to sign that check over. Also, blacks joined with the 'religious right' against gays, many survivors of which are still alive … and no, you don't care or even mention anything about it. This issue is narcissism writ too large to be believed.

  • That hashtag is the reason reparations is being discussed. The Real News needs to interview Sandy Darrity,Yvette Carnell and Antonio Moore period.

  • The only reason they wanna "study" it is so they can keep us black people calm for another 50 years. I wouldn't really call this a win.

  • #ADOS is not informed.really? The young woman is from the islands, so it’s understandable why they are against #ADOS!!! Your mother CHOSE to come to a racist country!

  • Um that black woman is not informed about the ADOS movement. You need to check yourself. The only discussion should how much. Other than that JUST CUT THE DAMN CHECK!! PERIOD!!

  • Easiest way to get it through the senate is call the bill the Jesus guns are great free money for corporations more money for military and your gay if you vote against it bill

  • Blacks today are not slaves, and they have the same opportunities as anyone else, in fact they have long had more
    opportunity because of affirmative action in every ambit of life and the economy. They get preference in government
    contracts. They have been on the dole in everything including education. If they cannot achieve in the US today with

    being given everything imaginable, then giving them wealth they did not work for, would be spent on Rap and crack.
    Red lining — I witnessed it. As soon as Blacks were placed in white neighborhoods, beautiful homes sold for 10 cents
    on the dollar and were trashed and drugs and crimes brought in by Blacks within five years. MLK failed in his proposition

    of "the content of their character," because it is exactly character that is lacking. Why do poor Blacks deserve anything
    more than poor whites? Why shouldn't the African tribes who enslaved their brothers pay them reparations? Reparations
    are racist, as Blacks themselves are the greatest racists in the United States, or so that has been my experience.

  • Bullshit. When Reparations were first introduced it was for American freed slaves. Now all of a sudden it's for other groups from other countries. Gtfoh

  • Is Anoa suggesting she wants Reparations from the U.S. and would reject Reparations from the European country responsible for slavery in Barbados? Or is she hoping for Reparations from both the U.S. and the responsible European country/Britain? We could get Reparations for ADOS and explore amendments for those who were here before and during Jim Crow.

  • Cornel West has given shoutouts to Sandy Darity, Yvette Carnell and Antonio Moore and ADOS.

    "…But I do want to say this, I do want to say this. William Darity. And Yvette Carnell. Antonio Moore, the legacy of Queen Mother Moore. It's something that we must come to terms with so that the voices are able to come together accenting the specificity of the Black condition, but ALSO AS CITIZENS, this is why Brother Bernie is so important. We need redistribution of wealth based on CITIZENSHIP, but we've also got to come to terms with these monstrous crimes that go even BEYOND citizenship…"

  • The 25% most intelligent are the ruling-class, the 25% middle-speed thinkers are the supervisor middle-class and the 50% slow and careful thinkers who enjoy doing manual labor, they are the laboring-class. For the simple reason that God created them that way.

  • No one in this show is of the laboring-class, the 50% working poor. For they are all of the more educated upper-half of society that has always hoarded all of the land, wealth, political power and healthcare. And when they tell us to organize the 75% of society known as the "working-class," they create insanity by combining slave-drivers and slaves.

    For in this economical prison called Empire USA, the educated middle-class are the slave-drivers who police, supervise, engineer, doctor and small business manage the enslavement of the black, brown and white 50% working poor.

  • If the Black community goes it alone by only organizing against Black discrimination, they would be a 12% minority against 78% of society. But if they organize against Black and Latino discrimination, they would be a 32% against 68% of society. But better yet, if they organize against class discrimination, they would be the might 50% laboring-class working poor and would win a Revolution without a vote being cast or a shot being fired.

    For by a no-work strike, a nationwide laboring-class strike, just watch what happens when the sewage backs up to the kitchen sink of everyone with a college degree.

  • the topic is 2 hot for them to not do anything they have to give us something the longer we wait the more the fire gets hot this could lead to a war that can get real ugly based on the facts that at this point in time we have nothing to loss.

  • African Americans had generations of freedom expropriated from them. Native Americans had all the property of North and South America expropriated from them. Slavery cost white Americans hundreds of thousands of young men's lives when the country fought its most awful war to end it.
    If we're taking responsibility for all the sins of everyone's ancestors, are we going to try to assess reparations from the South for the Civil War or from all the Dutch, British, French, Portuguese, Spanish, Jewish Old Money and all the other slave traders? Should we hold Britain's support for the Confederacy against them now? Does this all seem too focused on the past?
    There are proposals that aim to correct past mistakes like banking reform to promote smaller banks and promote more lending for production instead of only for real estate. That seems like a more productive and forward thinking way to begin to undo persistent economic harm from redlining.

  • #ADOS isn't a hashtag group. We are live and in people's faces. We have disconnected our legal claim from the pan africanism movement for multiple reasons. The most important reason is that a legal claim for reparations has to be very specific in who the plaintiff and defendants are. It can be proven America has terrorized black people in America. You can't definitively prove that for the global diaspora. Furthermore for there to be a true pan-african relationship, the 52 African countries have to agree that they want to be part of this….and so far they have said "nah"

  • One important question of reparations came with the abolition of slavery; whether they should be paid to oil companies, or their holdings simply seized.

  • Being a person of Indigenous ancestry, I know urban ghettoization and dispossession well. Will I be at the back of the line once again?

  • As an Indigenous person, I know that our traditional societies influenced the American realizations of Indigenous freedoms. Although we are unacknowledged for this historical contribution, you are correct Marc, IMO. Sadly, in fact, we were were dispossessed of this as well. I think an America transitioning toward social democracy is moving toward social justice but that is hypothetical at this point. A world war would halt that 'nonsense'. The root of the problem IS American (big CC) corporate capitalism. I think real solutions will come from real community-based initiatives, politics and transformation. Paying people off is 'Big C' capitalism and the tactic of choice of money masters to maintain things as they are while concealing the underlying dynamics of power.

  • No, the root cause is not "white supremacy."
    For white, brown and black fast thinkers are slave owners,
    while white, brown and black slow thinkers are slaves

  • Question: Jacqueline, have you listened to or done any in depth review of ADOS and what they're saying? You're a brilliant woman, but I respectfully say, it doesn't sound like it, and if you haven't, you're not really qualified to speak on the subject. Your question was muddled and unclear. ADOS is making the factual case that post baby boomer African American descendants of AMERICAN SLAVERY are facing genocidal level extinction based on every socio-economic metric, meaning this population does not have the capacity to sustain life going forward. Yvette Carnell and Antonio Moore have articulated this case brilliantly, employing contemporary technology and social media to break down this explosive deep academic data that most people know nothing about. Those of us elders who get it, our own Afrocentric and pan Africanists history notwithstading, absolutely agree with the case being made to America— you broke these people, you repair these people. Period. And absolutely, don't confuse bringing in a bunch of high achieving Africans or Haitians or anybody else from any place else to fill spots in schools and jobs that Black Americans should be occupying — and I'm married to an African so don't get it twisted— just because it's more convenient. Even colleges and universities have begun to question using blacks from everywhere else as cutouts and stand-in for African Americans--why is that? Is it because it's easier to use people who haven't been so thoroughly and relentlessly assaulted. Is that any different than rolling out a "diversity" model after the civil right struggle that primarily benefited white women. Get your payback from the criminals who assaulted you. Follow that model and everybody take up your own struggle against whoever perpetrated the crimes against your population. That's only logical. Template models can be used to pursue your particular group of perpetrators. But when ADOS shows you the data and the little bit of wealth in black hands in this country resides in boomers and African immigrants– this isn't an anti-African story. This is a how the fuck did that happen story? It doesn't make sense, so figure it out. Maximum respect to my generation of fierce advocates, including Nkobra, Cam Howard, Omali Yeshitela et al. There is no contradiction in my mind. I do see some ego on one side and lack of proper sensitivity on the other, but these are minor issues. The real point is, are we just going to watch this population disappear and the general society will say, they was here and now they're gone. We don't know what happened. Oh well. And the global take away — because that IS a pan African reality — the battle must be fought in every jurisdiction against every responsible criminal — not in some kind of blurred lines confusion that could very well see the sons and daughters of Africa's legendary criminal kleptocrats like Mobotu or Kagame etc. rewarded even more just because they fit some kind of superficial profile.

  • ADOS are not dismissing our African roots. Reparations are for American Descendants of Slaves, not black immigrants. If Africans in the Diaspora have a justice claim in their country, then let them stake it.

  • Pro slavery & Jim Crow laws can ONLY be blamed on judges who embraced the concept of white supremacy. Solution is to erect a HALL OF SHAME in each and every courthouse where pro slavery & Jim Crow laws were enforced, w/ portraits of each racist judge displayed for all to see, starting w/ Roger Taney, Chief Justice SCOTUS "Africans are only 3/5 human" and thus cannot own land (Dred Scott case).

  • Shut up "entitled" black people." Mexicans don't get reparations you don't either. Work for your taco.

  • If it wasn't for #ados their would not have been a hearing on HR40. No one would be talking about reparations on a mainstream national level if it wasn't for ados. Instead of reaching out to ADOS reps such as Dr. Sandy Darity, Yvette Carnell, or Antoine Moore to have a conversation you just dismiss them. The question is why?

  • ADOS has every right to fight for OUR JUSTICE CLAIM AGAINST AMERICA, just like other DOS worldwide has every right to pursue their justice claim against their colonizers and we should be respectful for each other rights . What about this is so hard for black immigrants to understand? By conducting a unbalanced bias panel It's more then also clear the "The Real News Network" has a agenda to attack ADOS right to fight for our justice claim in the country OUR ANTORSECS BUILT. So I will unsubscribe and all ADOS should do the same.

  • I don't think our people understand that reparations is about lineage, you will have white people who are ados, immigrants who are Ados, this issue is not as simple as black or white. If a black man who is ados, has children with a non ados woman, is that child ados? What about Liberians whose families were sent to that country in the 19th century, are they ados?

  • Let’s be clear reparations will not be for black immigrants. ados stand up, for our allies thanks for your supporting

  • Let’s be clear reparations will not be for black immigrants. ados stand up, for our allies thanks for your supporting