Houses of Worship Increasing Security in the Wake of Attacks | Connecting Point | Jan. 8, 2019

Houses of Worship Increasing Security in the Wake of Attacks | Connecting Point | Jan. 8, 2019


>>>SADLY, THERE HAVE BEEN
ATTACKS ON RELIGIOUS WORSHIPPERS AND HOUSES OF WORSHIP IN THE
NEWS RECENTLY. THERE WERE ACTS OF ANTI-SEMITIC
VIOLENCE IN THE NEW YORK CITY AREA, INCLUDING A KNIFE ATTACK
DURING A HANUKKAH CELEBRATION AT A RABBI’S HOME. AND THERE WAS A SHOOTING AT A
CHURCH JUST OUT OF THE SIDE OF FORT WORTH, TEXAS JUST BEFORE
THE NEW YEAR. IN THE WAKE OF INCIDENTS LIKE
THESE, MORE AND MORE HOUSES OF WORSHIP ARE CONSIDERING THEIR
OPTIONS WHEN IT COMES TO SECURITY. CAROLEE MCGRATH SAT DOWN WITH
ERIC STRATTON OF STS CONSULTING TO LEARN MORE.>>WE’VE BEEN CONSULTING WITH
SOME OF THE AREA CHURCHES AND SYNAGOGUES AND WE COME IN AND DO
A SURVEY, WE LOOK AT A BUNCH OF THINGS, THEIR SOCIAL MEDIA
PLATFORMS, JUST LOOK FOR THREATS ON SOCIAL MEDIA. THEN WE DO AN OUTSIDE SURVEY,
THEN WE DO AN INTERNAL SURVEY. AND THEN WE WORK WITH THEM,
DEPENDING WHAT THEY WANT TO DO, WE WORK WITH THEM TO ENHANCE THE
INSIDE SECURITY. WE LOOK AT IF A SHOOTING DID
OCCUR, WHAT’S THE BEST METHOD TO SAVE THE MOST LIVES INSIDE, IF
SOMETHING HAPPENS AND THE SHOOTER IS TAKEN DOWN OR LEAVES,
HOW DO WE CARE FOR THE PEOPLE THAT ARE INSIDE. THEN THE, WHEN LAW ENFORCEMENT
SHOWS UP, ASSISTING THE PATIENTS AND HOPEFULLY —
>>HOW DO YOU ADVISE PEOPLE? BECAUSE I THINK A LOT PEOPLE
WOULD SAY NO WAY, WE DON’T WANT TO HAVE AN ARMED GUARD IN
CHURCH. ALTHOUGH MORE AND MORE CHURCHES
ACROSS THE COUNTRY ARE CONSIDERING IT.>>YES. I’M CERTAINLY NOT AGAINST HIRING
A LOCAL POLICE OFFICER WHO KNOWS THE COMMUNITY, KNOWS THE PEOPLE
INSIDE AS AN EXTRA DETAIL OR WHATEVER, WHETHER IT BE IN FULL
UNIFORM OR NOT SO HE BLENDS IN OR SHE BLENDS IN. MOST OF THE CLIENTS NOW, WHAT
THEY WANT TO DO IS THEY HAVE PEOPLE, FEDERAL AGENTS, LAW
ENFORCEMENT, WHETHER IT BE FEDERAL, STATE OR LOCALS INSIDE
THE CHURCH, AND SOME OF THEM HAVE BANDED TOGETHER TO MAKE
THEIR OWN LITTLE SECURITY TEAMS. AND THESE SECURITY TEAMS ARE NOW
PROVIDING MULTIPLE LAYERS OF SECURITY INSIDE SOME OF THESE
SYNAGOGUES AND CHURCHES IN WESTERN MASS.>>WHAT’S THE LAW IN
MASSACHUSETTS ON CARRYING INSIDE A CHURCH?>>AS LONG AS IT’S NOT A
FEDERAL BUILDING OR A STATE BUILDING, OR A SCHOOL, YOU CAN
CARRY.>>OBVIOUSLY THOSE PEOPLE, MAYBE
IT’S A STATE TROOPER OR F.B.I. AGENT, THEY’RE NOT GOING TO BE
IN EVERY SINGLE SERVICE. SO YOU HAVE TO HAVE THAT OTHER
LAYER OF SECURITY. CAN YOU DISARM SOMEBODY WITH A
GUN? HOW DO YOU ADVICE PEOPLE IF THIS
HAPPENS?>>SO SOME OF THE TRAINING, IT
DEPENDS ON EACH CLIENT. THE SYNAGOGUE, WHAT THEY WANTED
WAS, WE DID THE OUTSIDE, INSIDE AND WE LOOKED FOR BEHAVIORAL
THINGS. WE TAUGHT THEM HOW TO LOOK FOR
PEOPLE THAT ARE OUT OF PLACE COMING IN, YOU KNOW, THE BAGS,
SOMETHING JUTTING OUT OF A COAT, THE WAY THEY DON’T MAKE EYE
CONTACT OR THEY TALK TOO MUCH. SO WE WENT OVER THE BEHAVIORAL
ASPECT OF WHAT TO LOOK FOR BEFORE THEY CAME IN, AND THEN
ONCE THEY CAME IN IF THE SHOOTER WERE TO GET UP AND DO ANYTHING
THEN WE WENT OVER THIS WHOLE PIECE ON IF YOU HAD TO MAKE
CONTACT WITH THE SHOOTER HOW TO DISARM OR GET THEM TO THE
GROUND. TAKE AWAY THE PLAINS ON WHICH
THEY CAN OPERATE. IF HE’S STANDING HE CAN MOVE IN
ANY DIRECTION. IF YOU TAKE HIS FEET OUT AND
GOES TO THE GROUND HE HIS LESS PLAINS TO WORK ON. FROM THERE IT MOVES TO WHAT
HAPPENS AFTER THE SHOOTING STOPS. THE SUSPECT EITHER LEAVES OR IF
HE STAYS THERE AND IS DETAINED OR SOMETHING HAPPENS, WHAT DO WE
DO. THEN THE NEXT PHASE, WHO’S HURT,
HOW BAD, WHAT DO WE HAVE WITH US. SO WE HAD SOME OF THE LADIES
TAKING OFF THEIR SCARVES, TAKING THE STRINGS OUT OF THE HOODIES
AND SHOE LACES. SO IT’S, THE STOP THE BLEED
PROGRAM IS AN INCREDIBLE PROGRAM. THEY GO OVER THE TOURNIQUETS AND
HOME STATIC — HOME HEMOSTATEIC. BUT IN MOST CASES THEY WON’T
HAVE THOSE THINGS. SO WE’RE WORKING WITH WHAT DO
YOU HAVE RIGHT THEN AND THERE, SHOE LACES, A TIE, AND HOPEFULLY
PLENTY OF THEM IN CHURCH. SO WE CAN WORK ON WHO IS HURT
THE WORST, AND IF THAT DOESN’T WORK WE TEACH THEM HOW TO GET A
SECOND ONE ON AND HOW TO INTERACT WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT,
BECAUSE THEY’RE GOING TO COME IN HOT AND HEAVY, AND THEN BEHIND
THEM, PROBABLY IT’S, EITHER A SPECIALLY TRAINED CREW WILL COME
IN, SO WE GO FROM ONCE THE PERSON COMES IN, ONCE THE
SHOOTING HAPPENS, WE TRY TO GO THROUGH ALL THESE DIFFERENT
PHASES, AND PUT IT TOGETHER WITH A COUPLE EXERCISES.>>LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT THE
TEXAS SHOOTING. OBVIOUSLY THERE’S A LOT OF
CONTROVERSY ABOUT GUN CONTROL. BUT THAT WAS OVER IN SIX
SECONDS. SO THE FIRST TWO PEOPLE WERE
SHOT, ONE OF THEM WAS A VOLUNTEER SECURITY GUARD WHO WAS
REACHING, APPEARED TO BE REACHING FOR HIS GUN.
AND THE PERSON WHO ACTUALLY ENDED IT WAS ANOTHER VOLUNTEER
SECURITY GUARD WHO SHOT THE MAN. DO YOU RECOMMEND THAT MAYBE
CHURCHES CONSIDER SUCH TYPES OF VOLUNTEER SECURITY GUARDS?>>I’M CERTAINLY NOT AGAINST IT
WHATSOEVER. WHAT I WOULD SAY IS IF YOU
DECIDE TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THEN THERE’S QUITE A BIT
OF RANGE TIME. THERE’S A LOT OF THINGS TO THINK
ABOUT. IN THAT PARTICULAR SHOOTING, HAD
THE OFFICER MISSED AND IF YOU LOOK THERE’S WINDOWS, THAT COULD
HAVE GONE OUT INTO THE PARKING LOT. I KNOW ONE OF THE CHURCHES WE’VE
TALKED TO, THEY’RE GOING TO HAVE ARMED PEOPLE, BUT THERE’S ALSO
AN AREA WHERE THE KIDS GO DURING THE SERVICE SO THEY CAN STAY
BUSY. DO YOU WANT TO TAKE A SHOT GOING
INTO THAT AREA? OR WOULD YOU TRY TO REDIRECT IT
SO THE SUSPECT WAS ENGAGED IN A DIFFERENT ANGLE.>>SO YOU’RE TALKING ABOUT A LOT
OF TRAINING. YOU DON’T WANT EVERYBODY
BRINGING A GUN INTO CHURCH.>>NO, BECAUSE IF YOU WATCH THE
REST OF THE VIDEO, SOME GUYS ARE LIKE THIS, SOME GUYS, THEIR GUN
IS COMING BEHIND INNOCENT PEOPLE. SO I’D HOPE THAT THEY WOULD
EITHER HAVE DONE A PAINT BALL THING OR SOME TYPE OF AIR SHOT
PRIOR TO THIS SO THEY KNOW THE RULES, SO THEY DON’T SHOOT EACH
OTHER. AND WHEN THIS IS OVER WHAT
HAPPENS TO THE FOUR, FIVE, SIX, IN FROM THE LOCAL, STATE,
COUNTY, NOW THEY SEE ALL THESE GUYS OUT WITH GUNS. I’M ASSUMING SOMEONE IS OUTSIDE
SAYING THE SHOOTER IS DOWN AND THESE GUYS ARE PUTTING AWAY
THEIR GUNS.>>RIGHT, BUT THESE ARE ALL
THINGS YOU HAVE TO CONSIDER AS YOU’RE DOING THE TRAINING AS
WELL.>>YES. I COULDN’T IMAGINE LIKE ANY LAW
ENFORCEMENT CONTROL, THERE’S ONE, TWO, LIKE THREE OR FOUR
PEOPLE WITH WEAPONS OUT. THE FIRST OFFICER SHOWS UP, ARE
THOSE THE BAD GUYS OR THE GOOD GUYS?

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